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среда, 14 августа 2013
what do you want
what do you want
a few other things i’d like to point out about spock and uhura’s relationship while i’m on a roll of posting opinions:
for one thing, when people say she’s been “reduced to a romantic interest,” they seem to forget that most of Uhura’s time and dialogue in both reboot films is usually:
intercepting important transmissions, translating languages that no other officer on the starship can translate, interacting with Klingons in a highly dangerous situation and not being afraid to talk to them, adding her opinions on board the ship about the fate of the ship.
i think one of the writers, orci, if i remember, talked about how people had accused him of putting in uhura just as a romantic interest. (he was the main person behind their relationship in the reboot)
and he said it wasn’t that way at all, because most of her time on screen was her opinions being valued as an independent character and i see that as quite true.
also i am frustrated because some people think that uhura somehow degraded just because she has a romantic relationship with Spock? the fact that female characters have to be written in a CERTAIN way i think is a problem with a lot of the feminist dialogue about fictional characters on tumblr lately.
the fact that women ALWAYS need to be strong and indpendent and can’t show weakness puts just as many unrealistic expectations on female characters because it makes them one-dimensional in a different way.
I’ve also heard people say that she is being used to make spock “more human” and i think that’s completely untrue
also, in TOS, there are multiple instances of crewmembers dating and even getting married to each other on board, (officiated by kirk himself)
to say that it’s “unprofessional” of uhura is incredibly unfair, because in TOS shipboard romances weren’t considered unprofessional at all.
I agree that there isn’t a lot of backstory, and if people don’t understand their connection because they haven’t seen the backstory yet, i don’t have a problem with that, and it’s something i hope to see more of in the future as well.
but saying uhura was used as a plot device for spock’s character development is incredibly inaccurate if you look at everything in context.
for one thing, when people say she’s been “reduced to a romantic interest,” they seem to forget that most of Uhura’s time and dialogue in both reboot films is usually:
intercepting important transmissions, translating languages that no other officer on the starship can translate, interacting with Klingons in a highly dangerous situation and not being afraid to talk to them, adding her opinions on board the ship about the fate of the ship.
i think one of the writers, orci, if i remember, talked about how people had accused him of putting in uhura just as a romantic interest. (he was the main person behind their relationship in the reboot)
and he said it wasn’t that way at all, because most of her time on screen was her opinions being valued as an independent character and i see that as quite true.
also i am frustrated because some people think that uhura somehow degraded just because she has a romantic relationship with Spock? the fact that female characters have to be written in a CERTAIN way i think is a problem with a lot of the feminist dialogue about fictional characters on tumblr lately.
the fact that women ALWAYS need to be strong and indpendent and can’t show weakness puts just as many unrealistic expectations on female characters because it makes them one-dimensional in a different way.
I’ve also heard people say that she is being used to make spock “more human” and i think that’s completely untrue
- spock’s dad married a human and he was 100% vulcan
- the fact that Spock’s character must only be interpreted in a certain way—as 100% vulcan—makes me uncomfortable because it takes away from the complexity of the character. Even in TOS, Spock showed many moments of typically “non-vulcan” behaviour.
- Throughout the later trek movies with the original cast, Spock continues to learn more about humanity and in some ways even becomes more human, and I think people assuming that uhura was used as a sort of seductive anti-logic siren and spock couldn’t control his raging hormones is cheating both characters of their complexity.
- spock is half human biologically and saying that it couldn’t affect him in an alternate universe is, for lack of a better word, illogical.
- as for uhura not being professional on the enterprise when talking about romance with Spock, Orci talked about how it was his opinion that in the future starships would recognize that allowing intimate relationships might actually help the sexual health of crewmembers on a long voyage away from home….[i’m trying to find the original interview right now, i’ll add the source hopefully if i can find it…it’s in the WGA interview but so far i’ve only found excerpts on TrekMovie.com; there was a post somewhere on the spockuhuralove tumblr that had a link to the full interview that i’ll try to find; it wasn’t tagged unfortunately...heres a screencap of some of it. ]
also, in TOS, there are multiple instances of crewmembers dating and even getting married to each other on board, (officiated by kirk himself)
to say that it’s “unprofessional” of uhura is incredibly unfair, because in TOS shipboard romances weren’t considered unprofessional at all.
I agree that there isn’t a lot of backstory, and if people don’t understand their connection because they haven’t seen the backstory yet, i don’t have a problem with that, and it’s something i hope to see more of in the future as well.
but saying uhura was used as a plot device for spock’s character development is incredibly inaccurate if you look at everything in context.
what do you want
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what do you want
what do you want
вторник, 13 августа 2013
what do you want
what do you want
what do you want
what do you want
понедельник, 12 августа 2013
what do you want
